Welcome to the Pod Force One podcast. I'm Miranda Devine. Today we're in Palm Beach, Florida,

with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Mayor Rudy Giuliani, thank you so much for joining

Podforce One. It's a huge honor to have you, and I've wanted to interview you like this for so long.

Oh, I'm so glad we are. I mean, I love the show. Thank you.

And you know, your column is one of the best, if not the best in America. Thank you. So I wanted to

start with New York, your city, the city you saved from crime and disorder way back in the 80s, and now look what's

happened with Mam Darni.

We've had de Blasio drove it into the ground, and now we have this communist mayor.

How do you think it's going so far after less than a year?

I don't know if I have words to describe it

adequately. You know, my whole life as a lawyer, it's about words and being able to express

things and written books. I don't know how to describe it. Maybe I can do it this way. About three

years ago before I left New York,

this man came up to me. He looked very upset. And he looked right at me and he said,

Mayor Giuliani, it must be awful to know that everything you did has been ruined. Now, I thought

he was being a hostile. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, I see a tear or two in his eye.

And he was probably about 80 years.

And he put his arms out.

I grabbed him and I hugged him.

Both the crying over.

I couldn't dispute that.

I mean, I was very fortunate with Mike Bloomberg. Now, Mike Bloomberg and I

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