Rudy Giuliani Is in ‘Deep Shit’

The New Abnormal

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🗓️ 4 May 2021

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Rudy Giuliani insists the FBI raid on his apartment was a total miscarriage of justice. His Trumpy allies swear the feds had no reason at all to execute a search warrant on his home.George Conway, a former top Republican lawyer, has a slightly different take. “I think he's in deep shit,” Conway tells Molly Jong-Fast on the latest episode of The New Abnormal. Then, science historian Steven Johnson—the man behind the new Extra Life Project—joins the pod to discuss the many lessons we’ve learned from the pandemic.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Molly Jongfast and welcome to the Daily Beast, the new abnormal.
0:05.8	I'm a left-wing pundit and an editor at large at the Daily Beast.
0:09.6	We're here to have fun, sharp conversations with some of the smartest people in media, politics, and science
0:16.4	that help make what's happening in the country and the world clearer.
0:20.2	Our world has been turned up to a down.
0:22.3	On the new abnormal, we'll talk about the people who got us into this mess and figure out how to get ourselves out of it.
0:29.0	And I'm producer Jesse Cannon.
0:30.6	I'm here to make sure things don't go too far off the rails.
0:33.6	Today we have such a fun and informative episode.
0:36.5	Steven Johnson is going to join who you may know from his amazing books and series How We Got To Now
0:41.6	or his fantastic books on innovation.
0:43.9	And he's going to talk to us about his new PBS series and book Extra Life, a short history of living longer.
0:49.7	As well as lots of interesting points about the past and future of vaccines.
0:54.0	But first, we have a lawyer and Washington Post contributor and new abnormal returning guest, George Conway.
1:00.3	Welcome back to the new abnormal George Conway.
1:05.4	Thank you for having me back. It's a pleasure and an honor.
1:08.8	It's so rare that I have the opportunity to speak to you.
1:12.2	I know, almost never.
1:14.2	Right. It's like we hardly even know each other.
1:17.0	Yes.
1:17.5	So I don't know if you know about this, but there's been this thing called the big lie and it's not true.
1:24.1	Have you heard about this?
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