You're listening to Once, episode 244, Ruby Slippers.

Music Welcome back to another episode of Once, the unofficial podcast for ABC's TV show Once Upon a Time.

I'm Daniel J. Lewis.

I'm Jeremy Laughlin.

And I'm Jacqueline. And I want to say up front, I think Jeremy and Aaron did a fantastic

job with the initial reactions without me. I enjoyed it. Even though I hadn't watched the episode

yet, I wanted to listen to the initial reactions while I was driving literally across Death Valley going from Las Vegas to San Diego.

That's why I couldn't be on the podcast this week and why the schedule has been all crazy because I've been traveling and such.

But big thanks to Aaron and Jeremy for filling in.

And I think they did a fantastic job worthy of great applause.

Round of applause for them. Well, thank you guys. And our show notes for this episode will be

at oncepodcast.com slash 244 in case you want to continue this conversation or share this

episode out with your family and friends. And I'm glad to be back to the podcast

for our full discussions, literally almost right off the plane that we're recording this.

But I want to start this conversation addressing the elephant in the room, the 800-pound

munchkin, the issue on everyone's mind about this episode, and it may even be the sole reason that you're listening to this podcast episode.

This statement and what I'm about to say represents my views alone and does not necessarily reflect the views of my co-hosts, staff, or affiliates, or those of Disney, ABC Studios, or any of their staff and affiliates.

Once Upon a Time has delved into numerous moral issues, which we have often addressed.

These include rape, idolatry, murder, abuse, adultery, fornication,

mistreatment of the unborn, and more.

They have also addressed positive moral issues like love, commitment, family, adoption, sanctity of life, forgiveness, and more. They have also addressed positive moral issues like love, commitment, family, adoption,

sanctity of life, forgiveness, and repentance. It has been very easy to address such positive

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