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it's Girls Camp.

Hello everyone and welcome to the girls camp podcast I'm your host

Haley Rawl and I'm joined today with a wonderful Samantha Shelley. Hi Haley

rule. Hi Haley Rule.. Self on the shelf.

Yeah.

I'm so excited we're finally doing this.

We were just joking, but we've been trying to do this for half a year, it feels like.

It is impossible to schedule.

It's so hard. And then I was watching on this couch. I was watching the

20 episode on Ruby Frankie and I saw you in it which I didn't know you were in it. I was like,

oh my gosh Bentley we've been trying to get together and do some

podcasting and I texted you and said, can you come over in two days and you weren't

able to? And a kid. Do you look at the camera much when you're a girl?

I don't actually. Okay, we're not breaking the fourth floor. We're not breaking the fourth floor. Yeah. We're pretending. Go away you guys having a little chat. Yeah. So you and I are going to be talking about the Ruby Frankie thing and I was just telling you this I have

steered a little bit clear I feel like generally on girls camp of getting in

into anything that I don't know, news-e, like current events, things, mainly because I don't feel

resourced enough to have the facts straight, and because I think there are so many other people in the

space that are doing such good coverage.

Yeah.

That I just don't feel like I need to like provide that aspect of things. However, I'm really excited to talk about this

with you and talk about the themes of this case, why it is grabbing so much attention for non-Mormans and ex-Mormans and Mormons and just basically

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