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And now your host, Logan Secula. Welcome to Secula. Once again, it's a Monday. Will Haynes is joining me in studio. Jordan Secula, my brother's joining me in studio. And later on, Rick Rennel will be connecting with us. So it's going to be a jam-pack show. You're not going to want to miss this. Of course course we are talking but the fallout over the weekend as president trump did officially meet with Vladimir Putin and how that went uh depending on what news source you watched and hey maybe

you're watching MS now which is what MSNBC has decided to change their name to having to

separate themselves was it my source now so there's a space Your source for news opinion and the world, really. You know, you could not be more generic. But you know what? It's a new day, if you will. But that is also a new day speaking of. It's Monday. And we are having a meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian president Zelensky that's going to happen today in the Oval Office, in the White House. So I'm sure we're going to have updates throughout the day on how that went. Of course, there were some up and downs with Vladimir Putin. There's a lot of people that thought a lot of the press, as we predicted, was going to say this was a big failure because they didn't decide to report the news beforehand, which was going into it saying, hey, this is not going to be a peace talk.

This is not going to be the decision-making time. This is to get to round two. This is maybe just to get

to have them eventually meet together. Nothing was ever going to come of this of extreme substance.

But of course, that's not how the media decided to spend it. That's right. And of course,

as the Secretary of State Marco Rubio made

the rounds on the Sunday shows yesterday, he was pressed by a lot of people like Margaret

Brennan. We'll play that in the next segment. You don't want to miss that. But he was trying to

lay out for everyone. As President Trump said before the meeting, he wasn't going there to negotiate

on behalf of Ukraine. He was going to try to get them

to the table. And this is how Secretary of State Rubio framed even what the entire point of it was.

And if you see our title about what it means to negotiate a peace deal, let's go ahead and roll

bite 14. This is about what Ukraine can accept and what Russia can accept. They both have to accept it. Otherwise, there won't be a peace deal. Okay, if there aren't concessions, if one side gets everything they want, that's called surrender. That's called the end of the war through surrender. And that's not what we're close to doing because neither side here is on the verge of surrender or anything close to it. Well, and Jordan, I think that's the entire point here, is that Russia has made games.

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