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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Rubber Ducks and Systems for Land Investing

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Careers, Investing, Business

4.8 β€’ 5.2K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 7 August 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Most people who lose money on land never want to touch it again. JT Olmstead went the opposite direction. After spending years as an IT network engineer, he turned land investing into a systemized business that lets him work on his own terms. His path to financial independence started the same way many others do β€” stumbling across Mr. Money Mustache in 2011, cutting expenses, chasing the early retirement dream. But somewhere between his first failed commercial real estate deal and building a thriving land business, JT's goals shifted. Instead of retiring as fast as possible, he started asking: what version of myself do I want to become? Brad Barrett sits down with JT to unpack that evolution. They cover JT's early financial struggles, the mindset shift that made him rethink success, and the systems-first approach that powers his land business today. If you've ever wondered how to recover from a bad real estate investment β€” or why land, of all things, might be one of the most interesting niches in real estate β€” this conversation delivers. Key Topics and Timestamps [00:00:50] Introduction to JT Olmstead Background as a long-time FI community member dating back to 2017. [00:03:00] Finding Financial Independence JT's early discovery of Mr. Money Mustache in 2011 and how frugality shaped his initial approach. [00:08:00] Transformational Experiences Life events that shifted JT's focus from chasing high income to seeking genuine fulfillment. [00:22:00] Real Estate Investing Journey JT's transition from IT to real estate, including a failed commercial office investment and self-identification as a real estate investor. [00:40:00] Land Investing JT's approach: targeted mail offers, public database research, pricing strategy, and prioritizing convenience and speed over price. [01:03:00] Hot Seat Questions Rapid-fire Q&A covering personal insights and recommendations. Key Quotes "Finding FI reveals the pursuit of a better life." [00:03:10] "Not all decisions lead to success; some factors are beyond our control." [00:32:13] "Striving to be the best version of ourselves is fundamental to growth." [00:12:54] "We prioritize convenience and speed for our customers." [00:41:21] "Reading Essentialism keeps me focused on what truly matters." [00:14:02] Related Resources Mr. Money Mustache Blog [00:03:00] REtipster by Seth Williams [01:01:15] FAQs What is financial independence? Financial independence is the state of having sufficient personal wealth to live without having to work actively for basic necessities. [00:01:30] What are common challenges in land investing? Land investing can be challenging due to market inefficiencies, illiquidity, and variability in property values. [00:49:02] How did JT transition from IT to real estate? JT built a strong financial base with savings which allowed him to pivot into real estate investing after assessing market opportunities. [00:34:00] What resources does JT recommend for new investors? JT suggests podcasts like Casual Fridays and REtipster as excellent resources for land investing beginners. [01:00:51] How does JT approach pricing land? JT customizes pricing based on data analysis and specific property characteristics, allowing for accurate offers. [00:56:05]

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to ChooseUpFight.

0:01.8

Today in the show, we have long time

0:03.5

five community member, JT Olmstead here,

0:06.0

and I actually met JT this Memorial Day

0:08.8

at Camp Five, Mid-Atlantic,

0:10.8

and we had just an amazing conversation,

0:13.2

and I knew I had to get them on the podcast.

0:15.5

It's interesting because my biggest financial failure

0:19.1

is in land speculation,

0:20.8

which I've documented many times here on the podcast,

0:23.4

and in a fascinating turn, JT is actually a land investor,

0:28.4

and he's built this amazing business

0:30.8

with incredible systems, and I was fascinated,

0:34.1

and I almost actually just stopped the conversation

0:36.1

and said, all right, I wanna go in as like a white belt

0:38.6

to the conversation we have on the podcast.

0:41.1

So I stopped it there, and we're picking up today.

0:44.0

So this is gonna be fantastic.

0:45.9

Welcome to ChooseUpFight.

0:48.0

JT, I'm so happy to have you here.

0:56.9

This should be fun.

0:57.8

Yeah, thanks for having me.

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