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Culture Study Podcast

Royals Gossip and Colonial Hangovers

Culture Study Podcast

Culture Study Podcast

Arts, Society & Culture

4.5789 Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Most people I know think the monarchy — any monarchy — is pretty ridiculous. And yet: most people I know also know a lot about Meghan Markle and followed the #whereiskate conspiracy theorists at least part way down the rabbit hole. They’re rich celebrities, sure, but they’re also embodiments of empire in decline — and I wanted to think through how royal fascination manifests differently depending on where you live, how you were raised, and identification (or lack thereof) with “your” generation of monarch. Hannah McGregor and Marcelle Kosman are scholars, podcast hosts, and Canadians — and the perfect people to navigate all of your questions about colonial hangovers, misogynoir and Team Meghan vs. Team Kate, and when and how we’ll actually see an end to the monarchy. I loved this conversation, and I think you will too.Show Notes:Listen to my appearance on the Athleisure episode of Material Girls and listen to Material Girls just generally! (Recent episodes include: Disney and Pinkwashing; Dirty Dancing and Nostalgia; Gilmore Girls and Normporn; Bridgerton and Reading the Romance, SO MANY GOOD ONES)Melody and I absolutely died when we found the Charles-as-Tampon on SNL skit; it’s even better than I remembered:My piece on #WhereisKate and the botched comms management around her decision to retreat from public life:Ellie Hall’s piece in BuzzFeed comparing headlines about Kate and MeghanWe’re currently looking for your questions for future episodes about:The upcoming “season” of Bama RushSydney Sweeney (and Gen-Z Stardom)Learning to craft / make things / hobby-around-the-houseTrad wives, featuring a co-host who used to be oneFor our continuing series on romance novels: QUEER ROMANCE and ROMANCE BOOKSTORESArtificial Intelligence (we’re gonna see if we can figure out an actually interesting theme here, so send us your weirdest or most mind-boggling questions)The economy, a.k.a. why is everything so damn expensive right now (my dream here is like an Odd Lots guest who doesn’t have private equity brain, please let us know if you have suggestions!)Contemporary ideas of self-careBuy Nothing groups and/or the current state of the secondhand marketAnything you need advice or want musings on for the AAA segmentYou can submit them (and ideas for future eps) here (and here’s the subscriber-only priority form)For today’s discussion: What’s your current relationship to royal culture? What did we miss in our various explanations, and what did you want to talk about more? (And do you have any advice for our hobbyists in the AAA segment?)

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, it's Anne. I wanted to let you know about a couple of episodes that we're working on that we need your questions for. One is continuing our romance series and we're talking to the owners of an all romance bookstore. It's a very good one. So what do you want to know about the business of selling romance novels? How has it changed? How do they think about, like which

0:21.9

titles to stock? Like you can go anywhere with these questions. The other recording we have

0:26.5

coming up is about the really dark reality, not just the performance, the reality of tradwives.

0:33.2

And we're going to be talking with a guest host who used to be a trad wife and got out.

0:37.4

So what do you want to know about her experiences and how her thinking has changed?

0:42.3

And of course, we always want your ideas for episodes.

0:45.4

If you're wondering about the backstory to some weird piece of culture you're seeing,

0:49.6

head over to culturestudypod.substack.com and let us know.

0:53.9

Okay, onto the show. Oh, I was such a distinct,

0:59.5

like, core memory, which was that my mother's mother, Joan, was born in England. She was a,

1:07.2

she was a war bride. And we watched the Queen's address on Christmas Day.

1:14.9

Every year, it was like we went over to Nana's house for Christmas dinner.

1:21.6

And the Queen's address to the nation always went on.

1:25.7

And we had to sit quietly and listen.

1:30.0

It was a really significant part of her celebration of Christmas. Do you remember what you felt about like what the queen

1:37.0

looked like? I mean, I think that I associated her very strongly with my Nana. Yes.

1:48.1

Similar age, similar sort of comportment.

1:54.9

The only person I knew who had the queen's haircut was my grandma and other grandmas. Yeah, that's the grandma haircut. It's sort of like a set? It's a set with a little wave.

2:06.8

This is the Culture Study podcast, and I'm Anne Helen Peterson.

2:10.6

I'm Hannah McGregor.

2:12.0

I'm an associate professor of publishing Simon Fraser University in Vancouver and the co-host of Material Girls,

2:20.0

the podcast. I'm Marcel Cosman. I'm an instructor in English and film studies at the University

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