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60 minutes, Roy Cohen, and this will be a party for Mr. Roy Cohen.

Thank you.

In February 1986, a who's who of New York City's rich and famous gathered in a fashionable apartment, they were there to celebrate the 59th birthday of Roy Cohn, the powerful and polarizing

lawyer and political operative.

Well, you just hold on. You have to make a very special wish.

Mike Wallace was there with a film crew documenting the festivities for a story he was reporting

for 60 minutes about Cohn.

People out of his past, like former New York Democratic boss Carmine DeSapio

came to pay their respects, as did people out of Roy Cohn's present, Norman Mailer, Helen Gurley

Brown, Lee Iacoco, U.S. Senator Chick Hecht of Nevada flew up from Washington for the occasion,

also present Cohn's usual companion, Peter

Frazier.

Peter and I were just catching up.

We've got so much to catch up on.

People have very specific feelings about Roy Cohn.

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