Okay, so this is pretty cool.

A couple months ago, we turned five.

Five years old.

I didn't want to make a big deal about it because I don't know.

I was tired.

I don't really know.

But it is an accomplishment, and I want to celebrate first with a sound effect.

Okay, that's enough.

And second, I want to celebrate by playing one of my favorite interviews we've ever done, ever,

and that is with Roxanne Gay, who from day one of the show was at the top of my dream list.

Roxanne Gay's work has consistently shine a light on the things we're missing or not talking about when we talk

about gender, fatness, our bodies in general, sexual violence, and I'm very proud that

this writer who has as much impact and influence as she does is a part of our community.

You'll hear me ask a question about that. This was recorded in 2019, originally for the Luminary app,

and at the time, I really didn't see her being publicly acknowledged as a queer writer.

It was her other identities that were the topic of interviews and stories,

and I'm really happy to say that now three years later, that is no longer true.

She is an essential and now recognized part of the modern queer canon. So thank you so much to everyone who's

listened these last five years, and if you're down, I'd love to do five more.

From The Advocate magazine in partnership with the Glad, I'm Jeffrey Masters, and this is

LGBTQ and A. A few years ago, you wrote that the older people get the more culturally invisible

they become as writers and as people.

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