In this episode of Money Matters, Scott and Pat break down smart Roth conversion strategies for retirees who want to reduce lifetime taxes, manage future RMDs, and avoid costly bracket mistakes. A caller with $4+ million asks how much to convert each year — and whether moving IRA withdrawals into a brokerage account makes sense as part of a long-term Roth conversion plan. They also discuss direct indexing, including how it works, whether low-cost providers are safe, and when direct indexing makes sense compared to backdoor Roth contributions. Plus, a real client case study highlights asset location, ETF overconcentration, muni bond mistakes, and how coordinated Roth conversion and tax planning can potentially add six figures over time. What You’ll Learn: -How to structure a Roth conversion tax-efficiently -When direct indexing makes sense — and when it doesn’t -Why asset location matters more than most investors realize -How to reduce future RMD and IRMAA surprises -The hidden risks inside “diversified” ETF portfolios Join Money Matters:  Get your most pressing financial questions answered by Allworth's co-founders Scott Hanson and Pat McClain. Call 833-99-WORTH. Or ask a question by clicking here.  You can also be on the air by emailing Scott and Pat at questions@moneymatters.com. Download and rate our podcast here.