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Welcome to another podcast by Inside Carolina.com, the independent voice of unccores sports your home for tar heel football

basketball and recruiting i'm your host tommy ashley joined by ross martin mike ingersaw last week

podcast got a little heated mike talked about fake tough guys and we kind of rolled with that.

So we're going to try to keep that vibe going on this show. I was going to start with Ross,

but I'd be remiss, Mike, if I don't start with you. And let's talk about your love for Duke University

just a little bit. Share what you think about the Blue Devils, it may surprise some people.

I mean, listen, here's what I think about Duke University.

Our football rival is North Carolina State.

And Duke always thought that there was a Carolina Duke football rivalry.

And in the last few years, there was.

But when I played, there wasn't, and there hadn't been in quite some time.

One of the funniest things I ever saw was, we were on the field.

We're down on the goal line.

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