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Welcome to another podcast by insidecarolina.com, the independent of uncelsk your home for tarheel football

basketball and recruiting i'm your host tommy ashley joined by ross martin mike ingersaw last week

podcast got a little heated mike talked about fake guys, and we kind of rolled with that.

So we're going to try to keep that vibe going on this show.

I was going to start with Ross,

but I'd be remiss, Mike, if I don't start with you.

And let's talk about your love for Duke University just a little bit.

Share what you think about the Blue Devils.

It may surprise some people.

I mean, listen, here's what I think about Duke University.

Our football rival is North Carolina State.

And Duke always thought that there was a Carolina Duke football rivalry

and in the last few years there was

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