Hello, welcome to Ona Ross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on fringe science,

spirituality and claims of the paranormal needs, but the f-f-what?

No, we take part ourselves.

That's right, when they make the claims, we show up so you don't have to.

I'm Ross Blacher.

And I'm Carrie Poppy.

And we're here today with an interview.

Yeah.

An interview from Cicon, CSIcon in Las Vegas, 2019.

Yeah.

So this was you and him, you and he, the interview-y.

Yes, Nathan H. Lentz.

He's a biologist and he wrote a book called Human Errors, A Panorama of Our Glitches,

From Pointless Bones to Broken Jeans.

Sounds cool.

Yeah, I'd mentioned this on a previous episode because I was so jazzed after reading it.

And it was a pretty fun story.

I kind of talked about it when I interview him, but I saw a guy who had the book on his lap

and I said, oh, that's a really good book.

Like I thought I was doing him a favor.

You're going to enjoy that.

And he said, oh, thanks.

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