Hello and welcome to Oh no Ross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on fringe science spirituality claims of the paranormal no no no we take part ourselves.

Yep when they make the claims we show up so you don't have to I'm Carrie Poppy and

I'm Ross Blotcher and I know what you're expecting it's the last episode of

2023 you're ready for us to review the year and all the previous predictions but no

No we're doing this. It's coming. It's coming. Yeah, we'll review the year and we'll look forward to the year ahead and what the prognosticators have to say about it.

I had a migraine for two days. It screwed us up, sorry. But at a lot of squirrely psychics.

Yes, we're trying to get our 2024 readings and we're having a weird amount of trouble.

Both of us have been like rebuffed multiple times and not because we're podcasters.

Yeah, I know.

Well, that you know of.

They are psychic.

But in the meantime, we have this great interview

that I've been excited to share for a while. This was recorded at Saicon

2023 with me and Kenny Biddle. Yes, Kenny Biddle. He's the chief investigator

at the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, and he's a fellow at CSI.

Yeah, and as you'll see a top-notch paranormal investigator.

Really fun just to pick his brain.

Yeah, I'm stoked to hear this this I love all the things that they do

at CSI it's a great organization they make skeptical inquirer great magazine

which you've written for yes yes yes and our friend Stephen Hupp is now the editor-in-chief of. Yeah. Yeah.

Exciting stuff there. What's up? So? I can't believe I've never done that before.

What's up? Yeah. I can't believe I've never done that before. What's up?

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