Hello and welcome to Ono Ross and Kerry, the show where we don't just report on

Franscience, spirituality and claims of the paranormal, but take part ourselves.

When they make the claims, we show up so you don't have to, I'm Ross Blotcher, and

Kerry's not here today, though she may make a surprise appearance later, but we do have

Kerry, Kerry Doctorow here to expand our conversation about 5G, conspiracy theory, and a lot of related

topics.

So let's jump right into it.

All right, I'm super excited today to have Kerry Doctorow, science fiction writer,

technology activist, journalist, blogger, longtime editor at Boing Boing, now blogging

at pluralistic, special advisor to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, co-founder of the

UK Open Rights Group.

I could probably just go on a long time saying all the things you're involved in.

I am one inch deep and 10 miles wide.

Thank you, Ross.

It's lovely to be here.

It's impressive, the number of projects that you do.

So thank you for coming on the show.

Pleasure.

I will say you wrote about our podcast many years ago on Boing Boing, and that was like

our first big boost, even before we joined the Max Fun Network.

Oh, that's really good.

And when we started our Scientology investigation.

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