Hey everyone, hi, hello, it is me, Allison Rosen, welcome to another episode of Allison

Rosen's You New Best Friend. My guest today is Ross Matthews. Hello. Hello. I love that song by the way. Thank you.

You're my best friend. I didn't even know it. That's right. You know, I kind of feel like you and I are both trying to be

everyone's new best friend. Oh really? You think, oh, I don't, I don't think of yourself. I don't think you have to try. I think you're just being

you and people want to be your friend. You know, and you're showing me up. No, no, no, no. That's totally what someone who's like

secretly trying to elbow me out of the way and be everyone's best friend would say. Maybe you're telling me right and I'm like psychotic.

I'm just kidding. I just feel like that's like your vibe is very inclusive and chatty and I think I'm that way too. I get that vibe from you.

Thank you. Thank you for having me here by the way, BTW. Thank you so much for doing my show. So for the listener who doesn't know who you are, although everyone knows who you are.

Oh, it's a lie, but sweet and I'll take it. Ross the intern. That's what I know. I started as Ross the intern 13 years ago. I believe that on Leno.

And then I started working on E and then you did just like I'm a show number lately. I do all the red carpets for E.

Hello Ross, the talk show. Hello Ross, the talk show, life from E the show. A bunch of, I just, I just a honey of this job I take it and your podcast straight talk.

My podcast straight talk. We are 10 weeks in. It is so much fun. Straight talk with Ross. Advice and L.O.L.s from the gay best friend. You wish you had a know you need. I give it to you.

Straight. It's like Dr. Laura, but like a little higher pitched and not totally horrible. So let's talk. Oh, and you wrote the book man up.

Oh, the best seller man up the town paper back. I'm really proud of that book. I think it's so great. I, okay. Let's talk about your voice. Go.

In the book, you talk about your voice being something that you had to learn to embrace. Yeah. And then it hit me. Yeah. Of course, that would be something that I could imagine you felt self conscious about.

What I'm talking about, of course, is that your voice is sort of high pitch. Yeah. So talk about that.

Well, you know, it was, there was a moment in my childhood when I realized I started to start coming together that I was not going to grow out of being a gay cartoon.

And that I lived in a small farm town. And it could be really easy. I understand how people go down the path of hating themselves.

For me, the fork in the road was, was very obvious to me. I can either hate myself or I can be all in and love me.

And it just like, it was very clear to me. Maybe it was a good day or something, but I just said, I'm all in. Screw it.

What, I mean, the other option sucks so bad. And so I just embraced it. And, and I learned, you know, you have to learn how to make the joke first.

You have to, when people over with different things, you have to use every tool in your tool belt. But I'm all in. And listen, I would not have had the career that I have now without this voice.

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