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🗓️ 10 July 2025
⏱️ 10 minutes
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0:00.0 | I have heard in the last few years a question rolling around the world. |
0:11.1 | It goes something like this. |
0:14.4 | How could you be joyful in a moment like this, in a world like this? |
0:19.9 | And the question troubles me because it suggests that joy is a privilege. |
0:26.8 | But joy in human life is a resilience-making, life-giving birthright of being human. |
0:36.7 | And to suggest that you can't be joyful in a time like this is akin to the |
0:41.0 | idea that you can't be hopeful unless everything has gone right for you. Joy is a companion to hope |
0:49.5 | as a wellspring of resilience. And my wonderful teacher on this is Ross Gay, a poet and community |
0:59.9 | gardener and teacher who brings his own way in to the conviction that we have to know what we love |
1:07.2 | and what delights us. And we have to tend to that as seriously and as fiercely as how we tend to |
1:17.0 | what is broken and what we're called to make better, what we're called to make more just. |
1:22.4 | Knowing what we love and knowing how to take delight is fuel, even and especially, in experiences of great challenge. |
1:31.9 | And Ross Gay is infectious. His presence is infectious. I'm not sure that we used the word hope |
1:41.2 | in the conversation we had, but hope emanated from it. As I said, he's a |
1:47.7 | poet, and he's also a very intense lover and interrogator of words. His work actually reminds me of |
1:54.7 | that Emily Dickinson quote, that hope inspires the good to reveal itself. He told me that the |
2:00.5 | etymology of the word delight is both |
2:03.6 | of light and without light, which again drives at the deeper meaning of this that, as he says, |
2:13.1 | adult joy knows that suffering and loss always live close by life and love. |
2:21.5 | And that knowledge brings what is good and joyful all the more into relief. |
2:27.2 | He actually works really interestingly with his community garden and the complex interplay that is in a garden between death and life |
2:38.6 | and beauty and loss and pleasure, season after season after season. So the part of the |
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