The following podcast contains explicit language.

I'm Ezra Klein, cohost of DweedsVox.com's podcast on the Panably Network and I've got something

fun and unusual for you today.

In February, I'm launching a long-form interview podcast.

I really love long-form interviews and wanted to do this for a while and so I've been starting

to do some with folks.

I think are really interesting.

Newsmakers, politicians, writers and someone I was really excited to talk to was Ross Douth

that he's an op-ed writer from New York Times, a young guest to op-ed writer in their history,

just a really phenomenal thinker and unusual guy with this sort of an unusual approach to politics.

But also someone with, I think, a skill as a writer and a political analyst that is really

rare today, which is an ability to speak to an audience that doesn't agree with him in a way

that they are really willing to hear him out and engage in an extended conversation that

they want to keep coming back for.

We had a great discussion, talked a lot about his background, how he got into politics,

how he got into writing and how he thinks about writing for this audience.

Something I'd love from you all is to give me some feedback on this.

As I mentioned, I'm launching a separate podcast that will be devoted to interviews like

this one in a couple weeks.

I'd love to hear what you liked here, what you didn't like.

I'm trying to figure out my own style and what is going to be of most value to you, the

listeners.

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