Hello and welcome to Oh No Ross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on

for inscience, spirituality and claims of the paranormal, but take part ourselves.

Yep, when they make a claim, we show up so you don't have to, I'm Carrie Poppy.

And I'm Ross Blacher, and we are joined by a very special guest today.

Yes, we are joined by… joined by… is that right?

Yeah.

We are joined together.

We are joined fourth with… joined together, yoked with Jenny Rice, an archivist and professor

of rhetoric at the University of Kentucky.

We'll talk a bit about this, but we've heard from her over the years because she has so

much in common with a lot of the things that we talk about on this podcast.

But today, her particular set of skills provides for a great follow-up to our Bob Larson

investigation.

Yes, so she emailed us.

It must have been right after we first started talking about Jury Mungotsie, so probably

over a year ago.

She wrote to us, and I'm truncating this a little, but she said, hi guys, I just saw something

Carrie posted on Twitter.

It made me stop in my tracks.

Part of why I ended up getting a PhD in my field was because of my experiences of being

subjected to Jury Mungotsie's therapy in Dallas as a teen during the 90s.

I was told I had multiple personality disorder, that I was a satanic ritual abuse victim, and

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