Hello, welcome to O'Noross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on fringe

science, spirituality, and claims of the paranormal.

No way, we take part ourselves!

Yep, when they make the claims, we show up so you don't have to.

I'm Ross Blascher.

And I'm Carrie Poppy, and today we have an extremely, extremely special guest.

Elizabeth Loftus.

Yes, Professor Elizabeth Loftus.

She's a memory expert and a distinguished professor of psychology and criminology at

University of California Irvine.

And someone we've been wanting to talk to for a decade?

Yeah, we probably mentioned her on the show.

I would imagine many times.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, she's a household name if you live in the household of a psychologist.

Which I do not.

But she's still a household name.

So if you do the kind of work that Ross and I do, where you're always thinking about deception

and perception and how the mind can play tricks on itself, she's a real hero in that world.

She is the author of the myth of her press memory and also witness for the defense.

And many published articles as well.

And if you look for her on YouTube, you can find her TED Talk and other talk she's given.

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