Hello, welcome to Ono Ross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on fringe science

spirituality and claims the paranormal no way we take part ourselves.

Yep when they make the claims we show up so you don't have to I'm Ross Blotcher

and I'm Carrie Poppy and we are coming to you from Drew Spears Productions.

People are watching us live as we are recording this. You are listening to a far more refined version of this, but if you want to go to YouTube you can find the original messy version.

Yeah. In all its hours and see our process.

All our stops, all our starts, all our corrections.

And it's maximum fun drive drive so we'll be telling you

about that this episode because it is the best time to support the work that we do the

maximum fun network all the amazing people that work for maximum fun. Yes, so today we are especially going to be talking about Daniel Sheehan.

Daniel Sheehan, the lawyer, activist who speaks on behalf of the UFO inclined and the alien community and the people and the people yeah his autobiography is called the people's attorney. Is it?

Well now you've made me question it.

I feel less certain of it being good, but it felt good at first.

I saw it and I was like, I've heard that before.

The people's attorney, that's some other guy and then I go and I go and I Google it and I'm like oh right this is the thing that every single person says about

If you're a prosecutor if they're a lawyer. Yeah, okay, but we're gonna be talking about him about them

in the prosecutor.

Yes, which is a conference that we've been to before

back in ye old 2017.

That was the first time we went, yeah.

And that was out in the desert at the Institute of Mental Physics,

which I just like saying, so I'm bummed we didn't go back there.

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