Hello, welcome to Oda Ross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on fringe science,

spirituality and claims of the paranormal. No, instead, we take part ourselves.

Yep, when they make the claims, we show up so you don't have to. I'm Ross Blotcher.

And I'm Carrie Poppy, and we are back at the Girl Defined Conference.

I'll finally. We'll know how to define a girl.

Yes, if you are just joining us, you'll want to listen to the previous episode.

Where we don't define a girl. Where we don't define a girl. It's very frustrating.

Come and join us. It was a two day conference. We tell you about the first day.

And now we will tell you about the second day.

And then after six days, we will rest. Yeah, we'll be tired. Like God.

It's a lot of days. Anyway, I had no idea people were so into Girl Defined already.

Yeah, boy, a lot of enthusiasm from listeners were like, oh, good.

I'm glad you're finally talking about these Girl Defined people.

Yeah, I had never heard of them until a listener suggested them.

Had you? No, I had not.

You know, it's uncommon that someone recommends something that we've never heard of,

much less something with this big devoted following.

And not just a following of people who are like, yeah, I really like Girl Defined videos.

They've influenced my life in a very positive way.

It's more people who love to witness a train wreck.

And see it in Girl Defined. I can't relate to that.

I wonder if they're in equal numbers or if there are more critics,

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