Hello, and welcome to Oh No Ross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on

frame science, spirituality, claims of the paranormal, no, no, no, we take part ourselves

when they make the claims we show up so you don't have to, that's right, you're waiting

for Carrie Poppy right now, this is Ross Blotcher, I'm here, not by myself though because

today we have an interview with the one, the only Brian Dunning, welcome Brian Dunning.

I was told he was looking for someone as pretty as Carrie and I was the only one he could

think of. That's right, yeah, you're the bell of the ball today. Welcome, well, you've

got a timely documentary that's just coming out right now. That is true. I say timely

because we just had a UAP hearing, a unidentified anomalous phenomena hearing in Congress and

you were ready with a documentary about UFOs, unidentified flying objects. These are

synonymous terms with slightly different imports. But yeah, tell us about your film, the

UFO movie, they don't want you to see. It's the good emphasis on they. It's all caps, right?

They don't want you to see. Yeah, you're correct. I am one of about 200,000 independent

filmmakers with a documentary about UFOs right now. It was obviously a super hot topic.

In the last few years, since they started having these congressional hearings and everything,

it's all everyone's talking about in some quarters of DC and on a lot of the TV networks

and on a lot of podcasts. So this is something I've reported on a lot and I should say that

I did not set out to make a movie about UFOs. Okay. As you know, my podcast, Skeptoid,

it's a critical thinking podcast. It's the true science, the true history behind urban

legends and lots of fun stuff. Any fun story people have heard? Here, let's go dig into

the real science, the real history behind what's going on. So I'm basically a science writer

is what I call myself when people ask me what I do for living. And the mission of, I mean,

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