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That's audible.code., Michael Malice here. Let that be your welcome for the next hour. Rosanne's back. One of my absolute favorite people and yours. Rosanne, something magical happened with me involving you and you don't even realize it. I love being able to kiss your ass because you I've told you this before. You're so focused on thinking how awesome you are. You don't realize how awesome other people think you are. So I was at the gun store here in Texas, and you call me to throw out some jokes. And if I had gone back in time 10 years and said in 10 years, you're gonna be a Texan, Roseanne Barrier friends gonna call you, throw some jokes at you. I would have been like, oh come on, that's ridiculous. And it's true. So God bless America, God bless you. It was such a hoot. I still think it's so cute how you don't realize how beloved you are. Is it because you were kind of grow up, grew up, and they're always telling you to shut your fat little mouth and you don't realize that now everyone appreciates you? Yeah, I guess you get like how you grow up, you never grow out, you know? You're always that person you were and I think you try to make up for it your whole life, but it's always there. So deeply imprinted when you were a kid and you always got hit in the mouth for saying stuff. And all of a sudden, I remember when I first got famous, it was such a shock because I was like, I mean, I was used to audiences like me, but that was such a smart, small percentage of humans. Right. And I loved it, you know, but then when I got really famous, I was like, it was hard to deal with because my personality was so awful because I was read into and used to just trying to piss people off because I felt like, yeah, they don't like me anyway, fuck them. And then when I got famous, I was like, what?

I don't know how to deal with this. It was kind of a shock. It's real weird then.

And people come up to me and like, like in a reflex,

I'd be like, oh, they're going to say they hate me or call me names or something

because it always was like that. And they'd be like, oh, I just love you.

And in my head, it would be a trigger like what?

But then I had to learn to pretend I'm nice

and say thank you.

Billy Island, this quote,

which I don't remember the exact wording

where he says, I love when people insult me because then I could stop pretending to be nice. Well, sometimes you feel nice. I mean, sometimes after all this, like it's really weird, it's karmic in a way. I mean, for me, I think it was. But after all this assault of love for years. It does change you, it makes you better. In so many ways, it opens up a lot of doors that you didn't know you had closed. And you're open to receiving good feelings and stuff I never even knew you, people felt. you people felt. I was all just all defense and stuff you know fight the fight yeah yeah so the second of my life is far more fun and sweet than the first half of my life you know know? But I think like that for a lot of people. One of the things I had, Dolph Ziggler, who's a wrestler on this show and it's something I agree with him. One thing he talked about is how fun it is for him with the kids. Because when you're a wrestler and you're like a superhero to these kids and it kind of has this big impact on them, that must be have been fun for you been fun for you because you're such a, you're like America's mom, now you're grandma as well. When young people go up to you and like, oh my God, you see on TV that must really be tickle you. Yeah, it does, it's like the love they give. It's like, you know, it's, It's like the love they give. It's like, you know, it's, it's a whole other sphere of my mind and soul opens up like, oh man, remember this remember. Of course, now I'm more used to it and I love it. It did change my life. It really didn't so many ways. I was able to open up to joy. Yeah. You know, having a good time and feeling at home on earth. I never I never had that luxury. And it's just a good, good thing. And I'm very grateful.

I thank God every day that this happened to me because I would not have been my full self, which I feel I kind of am my full self or whatever I am. It's like I got a lot of joy in it. And you know, I'm glad I got to feel that. Instead of a lot of my relatives, they were my age, when, you know, they got old and man were they better. I got a lot of joy and I'm glad I get to feel that. Of course, I'm still big at times, you know. When I'm around my family, I just let her I do that better. It's fun too, but it's just a deep, more deep, wonderful, wonderful opening to everything, you know. And it's kind of funny because your job was bringing joy to people for decades and a lot of it. So it's kind of ironic that you were only getting the fruits of it much later. Well, I like being on stage and doing the jokes and see people laugh. I never thought of it as bringing joy to people because I didn't know what that was really. But I thought that it was getting them to let go of misery. I thought that was a good thing, but I didn't know what joy was. Just because you let go of misery doesn't necessarily mean you know what joy is. You know what I mean? When I was absent of misery. I wasn't joy-fall. I just was absent of misery, I wasn't joyful. I just was absent of misery. You know, it's a big difference. When in your career were your happiest moments? Oh, I was never really happy with anything because, you know, I just wasn't in me to really be happy. I

would be like delightfully surprised when things went my way. When things worked for me but because I'd be like wow this is this is I don't know what you call it a a kink in the works.

I don't know why this happened.

Weird house stuff happened and went my way and the work for me and I wasn't getting beat up or punched or something, you know? That ain't happening. You know like a kid when you ain't getting hit, you're in the eye of the storm, you're just kinda glad you're not not getting hit. But you don't really know what being in control of your whole space and creating the world like you like at your life. It's just real different. It's like moving from one realm to another, completely different. Moving from victim to victor to different. It's really different. A mind space. Of course everything comes from mind. Our whole world view. It comes from mind and it's a tough journey to dig yourself out of a hole that you are born in. You just get used to being in the hole. Yeah because because you think it's normal. Yeah. Well, it is normal. After generations, you're wired. You're wired like that, you know. So what parts of your career are you proudest of them in looking back? Well, I have to say, Well, when I won these comedy awards, that was really meaningful to me. I won the Lucille Ball. These aren't real known, but I won the Lucille Ball Award for Television. And that was meaningful because I love Lucille, you know. We all do. I won the Jack Benny Award for comedy. That was very meaningful. I won several People's Choice Awards. Those all meant a lot to me, because that was for the viewers. And time the viewers liked me. I loved that so much, because that's who I did the show for. Certainly not television executives. I was glad they let me do it. But I tried to do the show for fat little kids like me that watch television and wanted something that lifted them out of isolation, I guess. Like I watched TV when I was a kid. And I looked for messages to lift me. And I wanted to put that out there. And of course, when I won the Peabody Award for Television, that was up there, probably peak. But also, the one that means the most to me is I won the Eleanor Roosevelt Freedom of Speech Award presented to me by what's his name Oliver Stone. Oh. And that one meant a lot because I really did idolize old Eleanor there back in the day when I was a fucking Tommy and all that. Yeah, she was a piece of work.

Yeah, but you know. or they're back in the day when I was a fucking comian all that.

Yeah, she was a piece of work.

Yeah, but you know, she really did care about the American people. Yes, true.

You know, I mean, at least you had it in her mind that they deserve something.

Yeah, yeah, that's fair. That's very fair.

That's, it's just, it's just so interesting. Is there there like an episode to show that you're that you're proudest of? There's several of them. I'm proudest proudest of course. A little proud of all of them. If for different reasons that everyone was a fight that I won every episode to me represents a fight that I won against the powers that be. And I used to have a guy that was my crew, my set crew designer guy, whatever. His name was Drew and he was really on my side and he was a set dresser. And we used to keep a list of every every show what I pushed through. So it'd be like episode one you got this you know he kept me going my crew and they kept going and it'd be like you won this you got this in you did this you fought this and I had them all there was I guess 300 episodes or something I don't remember but every one of them was a fight And of course I had to all. There was, I guess, 300 episodes or something. I don't remember. But every one of them was a fight. And of course, I had to sacrifice my nervous system for it. You know, I was just born a fighter. And I always fought every day. My life was a fight of some kind. So it wasn't new to me to fight like that, you know? But I guess one of the ones I'm proudest of is one I wrote with my writing partner, who's still my writing partner, Alan Steven, and we wrote this show in 40 minutes. And it's called, we did a couple of lost episodes that we said, we opened the book, you know, I came out with this tip orillo, just in silk, like whatever you used to do on PBS. We found a lost episode of the Rosangio. We'd like to present now on some kind of theater, I can't remember. But it was the 50s show, and I'm most proud of that because we went back and did the Rosangio as if it was an episode of a family show from the 50s. And I really love that one. Was that the one where you had all the tea? I love Lucy and all those kind of father-in-law's best sitcoms and then kind of illustrated the difference in battle, the way of showing the family and our way of showing the family. And it's real hilarious. Was that the episode where all the TV moms had those cameos at the end? That was an amazing moment on TV, where you had like everyone was there. No, that was another episode. But that one was great that I got all the former TV moms. they came and beaver cleavers mom barber billingsley yeah he said well I I find so much of what you do so offensive it's not the way we would have done it in my day and I go yeah well guess how much I make and then I whisper in her ear and she goes, oh my gosh, that's fantastic. And then we cut this big old chocolate cake and celebrated together. Because it kind of was, my show kind of was a victory for women and television that first of all I was not only the star and the creator and the producer, one of them, but I had the last word and there are a lot of women in television who have the last word before me. Yeah. Besides Lucy and oh my god, I'm forgetting her name, but she was that girl. Marla Thomas. Yeah. And Carol Burnett. Oh yeah. She wasn't a lot of them, but of course they paved the way for me. And oh, there was a couple of other ones too, but I'm seeing their face. I can't remember their name, I'm so sorry. Guys, did you know that chips and fries used to be cooked in tallow up until the 90s when big corporations switched to cheap processed seed oils? And today's seed oils make up 20% of the average American daily calories and recent studies have linked seed oils to metabolic health issues and inflammation in the body. So what did Masadu, M.A.S.A. they did something about it. They have a tortilla chip with three ingredients. Organic corn, sea salt, and 100% grass-fed beef talo.

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