Music Good morning, Michael Malice here. Let that be your welcome for the next hour, guys. You're in for a real treat. One of the few people on the internet with a sharper tongue and quicker mind than myself. Dr. Gad said, author of the parasitic mind. And Gad, you have a new title which I I am very excited to talk to you about, because you and I have been discussing off air and on our a little bit your attempts to flee what I refer to as the shithole of Canada. I say there's two types of countries on Earth, America and shitholes, only half tongue in cheek. And now, this is quite wordy, but the visiting scholar at the Declaration of Independence Center for the Study of American Freedom University, Mississippi, that sounds like a title president Trump would come up with. Where is that there to say? You know, it's funny you say that well, first it's so good to be with you again, Michael. Thank you for having me on. The first time that that title was ever announced was about maybe 10 days ago on prime time with Jesse Waters. And you can go and check the clip. As he read the title, he said something to the effect of this might be the greatest academic title I've ever heard. So let me tell you, Mississippi is pretty happy that people are loving the title. Yeah, so let's talk about the circumstances because I've talked about this a lot. I have been a huge fan of Canada as a New Yorker. Going to Toronto was like visiting a school play version of New York City. There was an earnestness, there was a charm to it. I really enjoyed it immensely. Then I went to Montreal, it blew my socks off, we went back, I do these bro trips with my friends. Just so many wonderful things I can say about the country. And the people, and then COVID hits. And it was some kind of measma or something that encapsulated the country. Every Canadian I've talked, I just had dinner the other night with George St. Pierre, Canadian MMA artists considered one the best of all time. One the greatest people, just really cool dude. And I asked him, and I asked you, I think about this of you as well. How is it that a nation full of frontiers in an inhospitable climate becomes so cocked? It's like you teach, you know, your evolutionary science, You have this disproved it. We got you. It's after the drawing boards for me. My whole academic career has been a facade. Look, it not to forgive me for plugging the books, but the answer to your question is called the parasitic mind plus the recital empathy, right? And let me explain for our, just to actually be serious. Let me explain what each of those two books cover because it exactly answers your question of how could Canada become this new version of Canada? The parasitic mind talks about what happens to our cognitive system when it is parasitized. And so just to explain very quickly what what that means. So we are a thinking and feeling animal. So the parasitic mind talks about the thinking part and suicidal empathy talks about the feeling part. So let's begin with parasitic mind. So if you look at the woodcricket and actual woodcricut, it abhores water. It doesn't want to jump in water. When it is parasitized, when it's actually parasitized by a hair warm, the hair warm needs the woodcricut to jump in water, merrily commit suicide in order for the parasite to complete its reproductive cycle. So it is hijacked the brain

of the woodcricut in its service. And so that was my epiphany for using that model to then argue

that there are parasitic ideas that could turn us into woodcricut. So that was the parasitic mind.

You're asking a question. Have you seen the videos of the praying mantises being put into being put into water? So for people out there, we'll put up a little picture. You take a praying mantis, which is a very alpha apex predator in the insect kingdom. I've caught one as a pet and we make eye contact with that thing. It has an intelligence. It's very disturbing. And people take it. It's not it's got a slender abdomen. They put in water. And all these hair worms come out, and you would think volume wise, it's not possible. It's like CGI, and they keep coming up, keep coming up, keep coming up, keep me on me out. And it's to your point that they want to go into water so they can reproduce. That's the parasites often have many stages, which evolutionary is just amazing that it takes like five steps for this thing to reproduce. It's crazy. Oh, it's, I mean, once you, so I, you know, I did an obviously a big, well, deep dive into the field of neuro parasitology. So parasitology is simply the study of host parasite interaction. So a tapeworm is a parasite, but it is parasitizing my intestinal tract. Neuro parasitology is a subfield of parasitology where the parasite needs to end up in your brain altering your circuitry to suit its interest. So, toxoplasma Gandhi is a parasite that many people might have heard of, right? The mouse that is infected with that neuroperesite loses its innate fear of cats. of cats, it actually becomes sexually attracted to the cats urine, which is not a really good,

you know, mating preference to have a f're a mouse. And so that's what I was doing in the parasitic mind. But then to complete the story of how you have Canada going from what it used to be to what it is now, for me to fully parasitize you, I have to not only hijack your cognitive system, but your emotional system. So our emotions have evolved to solve very specific evolutionary problems. So the reason why we have romantic jealousy, for example, so for example, men experience great sexual territoriality, it's because we are afraid of paternity uncertainty, right? We are a biparental species. I don't want to spend the next 18 years raising a kid that turns out to be sired by my gorgeous gardener. And therefore, we evolved the cognitive, emotional, and behavioral systems to thwart that problem. In this case, I get very, very jealous and angry if my wife is talking too long and a gorgeous guy is touching her at a party. Well, but there are many other emotions and virtues that we have, each of which has a clear evolutionary reason for why it exists in that form. So now let's take empathy. Empathy is a perfectly beautiful thing. There are very clear evolutionary reasons why a social species would have evolved empathy. For you and I to have a meaningful conversation, Michael, I need to put myself in your mind, and you in mind, that's called theory of mind. By the way, autistic children don't have theory of mind. The way that we establish that they are autistic, we give them a theory of mind test, which they very predictably fail. There is no blood test to check for autism, but there is a theory of mind test. So a lot of people can't help it. Can you just ask them if they would vote Republican Democrat or Libertarian, and then 100% accuracy rate? That is exactly right. And that's why, of course, I refer to AOC as occasional cortex. Although apparently Michael Savage might have beaten me to that term, although I did come up with that term independently of him. So you're exactly right. Maybe just give them pictures of Republican, Libertarian, Democrat. And if you vote the wrong way, you're an autistic degenerate. Wait, so I tell you something on Michael Savage. This is one of the funniest. You're going to love this story. I promise and the viewers. I had someone in the audience in the comments yelling at me for years, literally years. Let's say five years that how could I have been so mean to Rush Limbaugh and you went after Rush Limbaugh as he was dying of cancer? I don't remember this at all. I had very positive opinions about Rush Limbaugh. Certainly when I was in high school he was very influential by thinking and mocking someone dying of cancer is really not my thing, but he was so insistent. I'm like maybe he remembered maybe some joke that didn't land, you know, who's as he and he's just yelling yelling and he's like, when will you apologize? And I'm thinking like whatever. And someone replies, he is thinking of Michael Savage. And the guy pulls up the quote. And when Rush Limbaugh confessed his cancer diagnosis revealed, not the best, Michael Savage was like, stop crying. You put, you just really below the belt nasty stuff. And understandably, someone was quite offended by him. I got a guy's dying of cancer. This is your moment to take a shot. And he was like, it was Michael Savage. And he felt so stupid, this poor boomer. And he's like, I'm so sorry, this is all I can say. So whatever Michael Savage's name, I had to go that story. It was so funny. more philosophically, I mean you're both irreverent, you're both... Savage Malice. Sorry?

Savage and Malice. I had to go to that story. It was sort of, I mean, morphologically, I mean, you're both irreverent, you're both...

Savage Malice.

Sorry?

Savage and Malice, they're synonyms. Oh, and that's it. Okay, I thought that somehow morphally. No, it's not, okay. The names. Oh, it's the name of the world. It's that amazing. That is incredible. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, where was I in the story, but thank you for that story.

You're talking about AOC and autistic children, the other.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

So, so M. incredible. Edgers, where was I in the story? Thank you for that story. You're talking about AOC and autistic children, the other way around. So empathy, when properly regulated, when it activates within the adaptive norms, is a perfectly beautiful thing, right? I want my physician to be empathetic. I want my veterinarian to be empathetic. I want my spouse to be empathetic. Marriages where both party, both, you know, man and wife, in this case, are empathetic. And so therefore, it's birds of a feather flock together are more likely to stay together. So there are endless reasons why empathy is beautiful. But like Aristotle explained to us, Michael, 2000 plus years ago, all good things in moderation, everything in the right time and the right amount onto the right target. So what happens with suicidal empathy is that it is completely dysregulated in several ways. It is hyperactive and it targets the wrong person, right? So MS-13 gang member is more worthy of my empathy than the American vet, right? And so what I basically do in that book is I go through all sorts of both domestic and foreign policies that have led the West down the abyss of infinite darkness. And I show that they all stem from this this regulated empathy. And so now to kind of wrap it up to your question, while Canada is in stage four suicidal empathy. It's not stage one, it's not stage three, it's full-blown pancreatic cancer. Well, let me ask this, is it, I mean, maybe this is being pedantic, but I still, as someone who's a scientist, I think you appreciate that. Is it actual empathy? Because I feel like these people who advocate these policies don't really even genuinely want to understand how these people they're advocating for view things through the world and feel. They just see themselves of these kind of white nights, and I'm going to speak for them, and they angels and they're just like you and me but they just wear different clothes and there's very little understanding of who they're advocating for when push comes to shove. So I think there's both. So there is the full suicidal empathy manifestation but then there is the truly genuinely bathing and so I'll give you an example. Although maybe I'm not going to mention her name, but there is someone who is a service provider. Okay fine, she's a physiotherapist. I hope she doesn't watch this show. I recently had some knee issues and so I went to see her and she's a lovely woman, very liberal. She votes for the liberal party in Canada.

She's very empathetic.

And so at one point, as she's doing some ultrasound stuff

on my knee, she goes, oh, so what are you working on

any current books?

I said, yeah, I'm currently working on a book.

I explained suicidal empathy and so on.

And she says, well, give me an example of that.

So I said, well, for example, having a completely or geastic open border policy when it comes to immigration, would certainly be a manifestation of suicidal empathy, especially when you're arguing that all immigrants are equally likely to assimilate and provide some. Or interested. Exactly. And so she kind of pauses. And I figured that she was going to be unhappy. And I said, you see him unhappy with my explanation? What's happening? She goes, well, I think that everybody deserves the right. There's nothing special about us that I'm paraphrasing her words, obviously. There's nothing that, why do we get to benefit from Canada? But other people don't get to benefit from that. I said, but what do you mean? I mean, so what would that mean then? I live in a house. There are homeless people. So why don't they? I have sexual access to my wife. There are a lot of sexually frustrated people, right? Life is unfair. And she's like, no, I think all of those people

were perfectly vetted. They don't pose a risk. Everybody does. And so that she wasn't trying to signal to me. She truly was bathing in the infinity pool of suicidal empathy. Yeah, I read, do you know who Diane Abbott is? My favorite British politician? Maybe I know of her, but it's not coming to mind who she is. Okay, so she is our,

it's imagine Kamala Harris with the lobotomy.

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