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Hey guys, welcome to the show.

Today I have two special guests, Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, Jr., who's been on the show several times, and Rosaria Butterfield.

And the reason we're doing this episode is that Rosaria reached out and she wanted to talk about reparative therapy because she used to publicly hold to the position that reparative therapy was unbiblical.

And then in 2022, she publicly repented of that.

And so we're going to talk about why she changed your mind on this

whole topic. And we're going to get into a lot of details about this subject with Dr.

Nicolosi Jr. It's going to be fascinating. There are a lot of very interesting things that we're

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