Rory Stewart: “We’re Living in a World of Fairy Tales”

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Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

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🗓️ 7 July 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Rory Stewart is a British academic, broadcaster, and former diplomat and politician. He served as a Conservative Member of Parliament for Penrith and The Border from 2010 to 2019 and was a junior minister in four government departments from 2015 to 2019, holding the posts of Minister for the Environment, Minister of State for International Development, Minister of State for Africa, and Minister of State for Prisons. He ultimately joined the Cabinet and National Security Council as Secretary of State for International Development. He resigned from the Conservative Party in October 2019. His memoir Politics on the Edge (published in the US as How Not to Be a Politician) was a best-seller. In March 2022, Stewart and Alastair Campbell launched The Rest Is Politics podcast, which tops politics podcast ratings in the UK most weeks. Rory’s memoir: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1529922860/ The Rest is Politics on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Ysx8g1Iw42gESAtegrFaH SPONSOR: Shopify - sign up for a £1 per month trial at https://www.shopify.co.uk/trigger/ Join our Premium Membership for early access, extended and ad-free content: https://triggernometry.supercast.com OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Music by: Music by: Xentric | [email protected] | https://www.xentricapc.com/ YouTube: @xentricapc Buy Merch Here: https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: [email protected] Join the Mailing List: https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/#mailinglist Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media: https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry: Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	If you value honesty, integrity and diversity all things that are increasingly lacking in established media,
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0:22.2	The problem is that democracy partly depends on fairy stories. The trick
0:26.7	of populism is that of course there's always a kind of truth in this. The point
0:30.1	it's not is Farage right in his criticisms. The point is what would he
0:34.0	represent and what would he do if he was in government? As with most of these things
0:37.7	when you try to do it you run into a lot of complication. At the point where you go
0:42.3	well I don't want to leave the ECHR because it's in, that's when the person
0:46.1	says, well in that case, F you, I'm voting for Farage.
0:49.7	And that's how you create populism.
0:52.0	When it works, you know, you're the great reformer, you're Margaret Thatcher.
0:56.6	When it doesn't work, you're this trust.
0:58.6	You're a effectless, imprudent, foolish person who didn't bother to take decent advice.
1:03.2	If you value honesty, integrity and diversity, all things that are increasingly lacking in
1:09.3	established media, then consider supporting us at Trigonometry.
1:12.6	As a member you'll get ad free and extended interviews plus exclusive content.
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