I think for me even just showing up after the first couple of practices at UCLA, still a walk on, still, you know, undersized for, I showed up at like 210, you know, things like that.

And I remember calling my mom and telling her I'm going to be able to go play in the NFL just after watching the first couple of practices.

And obviously, I knew that there would be a lot of work I had to put in to get there.

But I think that's one of the things that was huge for me is just having the confidence.

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However, remember the off-season program is voluntary.

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My name is Andrew Sicilado.

That is Jason Gibbs still going over the schedule with a fine-tooth comb to plan his fall.

We welcome you to another edition on the Browns off-season march towards real football.

Gibbae, what's going on, my friend?

I got the comb joke. Maybe for you. There's no comb here for this guy.

You see that? There really wasn't a combing the desert. I'm not offended by

no. No, no maintenance. No maintenance. It's great. It's good. Can we can we explain to people what the

offseason program is? Let's do it. These are OTAs. They are not mandatory. So I know people are like homing brown and social.

Like, who is there?

Who is on the field?

It is great to see everyone back on the field, by the way.

Great to see Matt Starkey and Brie with their fantastic photo work of the players

smiling and laughing and throwing footballs on the field.

It's good.

But here's what it is. The offseason program begins in early April,

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