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The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Ronan Farrow’s on the Line

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Slate Podcasts

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Sexuality, Health & Fitness

4.2903 Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2019

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of the Waves, Christina, June, Marcia, and Nichole discuss former congresswoman Katie Hill’s resignation and revenge porn. Then, they break down the successes and failures of the new television show on female desire, Mrs. Fletcher. Finally, the panel is joined by Ronan Farrow to chat about his recent book, Catch and Kill, and the systemic sexism he highlighted in his intensive—and often dangerous—reporting on Harvey Weinstein. 


In Slate Plus: Was it sexist for Delta to edit out the lesbian sex scenes as well as the word “vagina” in Booksmart


Other items discussed on the show:

Terminator: Dark Fate Is the Gayest Terminator Yet, by Christina Cauterucci 


Recommendations


June: Mark Morris’s memoir Out Loud


Christina: The most recent Terminator movie, Terminator: Dark Fate. 


Marcia: The podcast That That Don’t Kill Me


Nichole: The band Durand Jones & the Indications


This podcast was produced by Sara Burningham. Production assistance by Rachael Allen and Rosemary Belson. 


Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com. 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:03.9

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:10.4

Hello and welcome to the waves for Thursday, November 7th.

0:14.0

The Ronan Farrow's On the Line edition.

0:16.3

I'm Christina Cauderucci, a staff writer at Slate, and host of the Slate Podcast Outward.

0:20.9

I'm June Thomas, senior managing producer of Slate Podcast.

0:23.7

I'm Nicole Perkins, writer, and co-host of Thirst Aid Kit.

0:27.0

I'm Marcia Chathlin, a professor of history at Georgetown University.

0:30.5

Before we get into our topics, I want to call out two of our listeners who wrote in about the segment we did on our last episode about

0:39.1

mixed politics couples. Both of the listeners were gay and pointed out that we did not talk

0:44.7

about gay relationships in our episode. Mia Culpa totally should have brought that up. But both of

0:51.1

the people who wrote in were in their own mixed politics relationships.

0:55.8

One is Paul. He writes that he and Rick, these are pseudonyms, by the way, have been together

1:02.3

for eight years. They seemed like they were politically aligned when they first got together.

1:07.5

But Rick got what he calls red-pilled in 2016 as Trump was campaigning. Paul says that,

1:15.3

you know, we sort of drew a line in our segment between people who were always sort of Trump

1:22.9

supporters and people whose politics changed because of Trump. Paul says that Rick was a case of somebody who truly had a political conversion because Trump hit all the right notes.

1:35.3

Paul says they're still together, even though they have intense arguments every now and then, but they end up falling back on what Paul calls the only resolution

1:45.1

possible. We have to agree to disagree on this because they fit so well together. They fill

1:50.5

such vital roles for each other that a huge political disagreement just kind of pales in

1:56.0

comparison. Thank you so much, Paul, for writing in. That was a very interesting perspective.

2:02.1

And I'm glad to know that we have some mixed politics couples among our listeners.

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