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🗓️ 3 June 2013
⏱️ 74 minutes
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0:00.0 | Thank you. |
0:02.0 | I'm going to be. |
0:03.0 | And so Hello and Hello and welcome to Open Mind UFO Radio. |
0:44.0 | This is your host Alejandro Rojas, and I have with me, Jason McClellan. |
0:50.7 | Yes, you do. I am here. |
0:52.7 | All right. |
0:54.0 | How are you doing, Jason? I'm fantastic. I am here. All right. How you doing, Jason? |
0:55.5 | I'm fantastic. |
0:57.1 | It's a new week, and I am recharged and full of energy. |
1:00.9 | Not really. |
1:01.6 | That's the coffee talking. |
1:02.7 | Yeah, coffee does that. |
1:04.9 | Makes you act funny. |
1:06.7 | Well, I always act funny. |
1:09.4 | Speaking of funny, actually, he's not so funny, but he's a great guy, our guest today, who is Ron Westram, and he actually was a professor of sociology. |
1:23.5 | He's worked a lot on the sociology of science and technology, which is really interesting, |
1:30.6 | writing about mostly kind of like teamwork and stuff like that in the science field, including |
1:37.1 | he's written a couple of books, one of those on missiles, missile design at China Lake |
1:41.9 | and how they work together well to create these missiles out there. |
1:49.2 | But he also has been into UFOs his entire life and a Mufong consultant. |
1:54.6 | And he's also observed sociologically the way people act to what he calls hidden events. |
2:06.4 | So in other words, when something happened that is a scientific reality, but they don't know it at the time, |
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