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On with Kara Swisher

Ron DeSantis Won’t Stop Imani Rupert Gordon

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.22.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Today after Kara and Nayeema take a quick walk down Rudy Giuliani memory lane, we turn to our guest: Imani Rupert-Gordon, Executive Director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, to discuss the intensifying threat against LGBTQ+ rights in states from North Carolina to Florida. On the agenda: why trans kids are a target for hate, which rights could be on the chopping block next, and why the legal battles are so enmeshed with disinformation and narrative wars. Questions or comments? Email us at [email protected] or find us on social media. We’re @karaswisher and @nayeemaraza on Instagram/Threads. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:45.0

Hi everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is Rudy Giuliani,

0:49.9

also known as Rico. Just kidding, he's just a showgirl. This is on with Cara Swisher

0:55.2

and I'm Cara Swisher and I'm name Arata and Rudy Giuliani just trekking over to Mar-a-Lago,

1:01.1

begging Trump to pay his legal bills. You know, the irony is the Rico charge, which is something he

1:06.7

used quite a bit against all the mobsters that he prosecuted quite successfully and it was his

1:12.0

big weapon and now it's being used on him by Fanny Willis in Georgia in these new series indictments

1:18.4

and he and many others are being you know treated like mobsters really with Trump is the

1:23.1

cop-o-de-tudy cop-o as they say. I don't think Trump's gonna bail him out. No, I don't think he's

1:27.6

gonna. He maybe can have a new career as a drag queen, which he used to dress up as people don't

1:33.2

realize that. There's many pictures of Rudy Giuliani when he was mayor. He was a friend to gay people,

1:36.9

very early, sort of shifted rather dramatically. I was just in Provastown. There were a lot of

1:42.0

really fantastic looking drag queens. Was Rudy there? I don't know. I couldn't tell. I don't judge.

1:47.0

I don't judge. If he wants to do that, I'm all for it. He needs to make some money so he could

1:52.4

perform. I'm sure he'd make a fortune in Provastown. One of the things that's surprising is these

1:56.8

new polls that had just come out. The new GOP polls that show that people's willingness to vote for

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