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The LRB Podcast

Romantic History: Waterloo to the British Musem

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4581 Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In the final episode in our series looking at the way history was transformed in the Romantic period, Neil MacGregor joins Rosemary Hill to discuss the circulation of artefacts throughout Europe in the years after Napoleon’s defeat at Waterloo, and the growth of public collections. They consider how the questions that museums grapple with today – concerning ownership, restitution and the role ordinary people should play in the stories they tell – were inherent in their creation in the 18th and 19th centuries. Buy Rosemary Hill's book, Time's Witness, from the London Review Bookshop here: https://lrb.me/hill Subscribe to the LRB and get 79% off the cover price plus a free tote bag: https://lrb.me/history Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the fourth and final episode in this series of close readings, looking at how history changed in the romantic period.

0:22.2

I'm Rosemary Hill. I'm a contributing editor at the LRB, and I'm extremely pleased to be

0:27.3

joined this week by Neil McGregor, former director of the National Gallery, the British Museum,

0:32.8

and most recently the Humboldt Forum in Berlin, whose latest radio series, the museums that make

0:39.1

us, is currently running on BBC Radio 4. Hello, Neil. Hello, Rosemary. Well, last time I talked

0:46.1

to Rory Sweet about the Bayer Tapestry and the tireless work of antiquaries in the late 18th, early 19th centuries,

0:53.1

studying the objects of the past and reimagining

0:55.8

how we think about our history. And this week, Neil and I are going to go to the scene of the

1:01.0

event which could be described as the determining moment in romantic history and which we

1:05.8

haven't really talked about yet in this series, the Battle of Waterloo. It became a tourist destination, even as the

1:12.4

smoke of war still hung in the air, and its material relics soon found their way into antique shops

1:18.3

and private collections and became part of that circulation of antiquities that led to the

1:23.8

establishment of the modern museum, the kind of museums that we recognise today.

1:29.1

After Waterloo, there was all this stuff which people were acquiring all the way across Europe.

1:36.5

And it's the beginning of what we now think of as architectural salvage.

1:41.1

And Wardour Street in Soho became the area where, I mean, not interestingly very far from the British Museum,

1:49.8

which at that stage had no British antiquities, became the sort of the classic place for getting your knocked off or knocked up antiquities.

2:01.3

It does become a huge trade, doesn't it?

2:03.4

Not just because of the revolutionary armies,

2:06.0

but because of the secularisation of so many of the religious houses

2:09.4

right across Europe, this enormous volume of objects,

2:15.3

sacred and profane, panelling, textiles, all of which suddenly arrives, often with no proper provenance at all.

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