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Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Romans 9: Piper vs William Lane Craig

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Baptist, Atonement, Reformed, Bible, Religion & Spirituality, Calvinism, Biblical, Arminianism, Calvin, Christianity, Christian

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Flowers play a portion of a message on Romans 9 from Dr. John Piper (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0TlZ...) and compares it to a message by Dr. William Lane Craig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOA1p...) so that the audience may compare and contrast each interpretation so as to discern which approach is more reasonable and consistent with the rest of the scripture.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Sociology 101.

0:13.4

Today we're going to be listening to two men I have a great amount of respect for.

0:17.9

I've worked with both doctors John Piper and William Lane Craig at different events throughout my ministry and I have a great amount of respect for. I've worked with both doctors John Piper and William Lane Craig at different events throughout my ministry, and I have a huge amount of respect for both of them. Now, obviously, I agree with one of them more than the other with regard to Citriology. I side more with William Lane Craig and his interpretation of Romans 9, but at the same time, I still can respect both men, can still

0:39.0

agree with a lot of what they teach. I enjoy a lot of what John Piper says and read a lot of his

0:44.1

books and appreciate and agree with much of what he says, but I obviously have a disagreement with

0:50.6

his interpretation of Romans 9. And so what I wanted to do on this program is play a portion of a clip from John

0:57.6

Piper's ministry website, which there's a link to the entire video series that you can go

1:02.2

listen to.

1:02.7

And I encourage you to do that.

1:03.7

I'm not trying to take John Piper out of context.

1:06.0

I just had to narrow it down because he didn't do a little five-minute video like

1:10.1

William Lane Craig did explaining

1:12.0

what Romans 9 means in a summary way or otherwise I would have used that video.

1:17.2

And so I just clipped out a portion from John Piper to show you what John Piper believes about

1:22.9

Romans Chapter 9 from a Calvinistic vantage point.

1:25.3

And then we're going to listen to William and Craig right next to it.

1:29.0

And the reason I'm doing this for the audience here is for you to be able to discern for yourself

1:33.6

and use good discernment as good Bereans and say, okay, which of these two interpretations,

1:39.8

which of these two models of hermeneutic is more consistent with the whole of scripture,

1:46.2

which makes more sense, okay, of the scriptures. What you're going to hear from John

1:50.9

Piper versus what you're going to hear from William Lane Craig. Now, I have heard people say this,

1:54.5

and it baffles me. Well, William Lane Craig is more of a philosopher than a theologian.

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