If I said to God, God, I am willing to sacrifice me as an artist, me as an actress, me as this crazy, wild, gypsy personality.

If I was willing to sacrifice it and I move somewhere where people are normal and happy, and I say that I'm willing to be normal and happy, and even just get a normal job like working in a coffee shop or who knows what?

I'll make you a contract. Would you then give me a husband and children before it's too late?

I have one of those conversations that you never expected to have, but in a moment changes everything, either changes the path of your own life or the person that you're speaking to.

Well, this conversation actually starts around one of those conversations with an old friend of mine, Gabbara's Ackman, and the funny thing is, I was involved in the conversation and I have no recollection whatsoever, but apparently it triggered something pretty unusual.

So we're going to dive into that, and I think it's also a really fitting episode because we're heading into Valentine's Day this week, and there's a really interesting interplay between love and romance and romance books.

So with that, I'm going to leave you with the conversation. I'm Jonathan Fields. This is Good Life Project.

Fancy a fever tree in a glass with ice and rum. You thought I was going to say gin, didn't you?

But I'm talking about fever tree ginger beer made from three gingers for that perfect blend of freshness, sweetness, and spiciness, delicious with rum or on its own.

Fever tree ginger beer mixed with the best. That spices things up.

So we're hanging out, which is kind of fun for me because we've been kind of loosely in and out of each other's lives.

I was a little bit less loosely quite a number of years ago, and then the last just kind of like touching bass.

And I resched to you a couple of weeks ago, and I was like, hey, I got this idea. I think you'd be really cool to rotate in.

And I was like, let's catch up anyway. It's been a really interesting story for me.

And then you were like, the last member of the last time we had a conversation, and you remember what you said to me right before we left, and I was like thinking I'm like,

it was either something really bad. She's going to throw at me or something deeply profound that she remembered this whole time, and I have no idea what she's talking about.

And then you said to me right it was a good couple years ago, and I remember I was right in the midst right in the thick of an interesting life story.

And you said your next step is to write a book, which of course I remember clearly.

Yeah, and I remember thinking, actually remember thinking at the time, yeah, that's cool advice, but I don't know that that's going to happen, or it didn't it didn't register as something possible or even desirable at the time.

And what were you actually why in your mind like what are you actually up to? We're hanging out in New York City where my recollection were at a cafe. Like what's your life looking like at that moment?

At that point, my life was just it was a little bit more, it was a little bit more defined by a certain dream that I had, and the dream was that I'm an actress, but I act in these places and in this way.

And then I had gotten really I was midway through the beginning of the best audiobook career on earth, which is as an audiobook narrator.

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