Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

Can you digger? Can I please have your attention? Daniel Diggins.

Greetings your listeners.

This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch

and Dispatch Media.

Once again, the great tradition of this podcast of counter-programming, breaking news,

we have decided that on the heels of our incredibly timely and on-point episode, Who Was Leo Strauss?

We figured that's too modern and that's too tied to the news. We wanted to go a little deeper and we've decided we're going to get back

Remnant fan favorite, Brett Devereaux, who teaches at NC State and North Carolina State

and is an expert in many things, which is sort of reflected in the title of his website, which is a collection of

unmitigated pedantry, which sounds like it could be the subtitle for the remnant.

It's unmitigated pedantry is so adjacent to rank punditry and terms and sort of concepts

that I think we could explore that, but we won't.

So Brett Devereux, welcome back to the dispatch, I mean to the remnant. I keep doing that, but we won't. So Brett Devere, welcome back to the

Disbat, I mean to the Remnant. I keep doing that. Welcome back. Thanks for having me back.

This is what? Three times. I think I need like two more for the jacket. You need two more for the

jacket. That's right. Although since Chris Starwald has been on like 27 times, he can lend you

one it is.

All right.

So you're a little punchy because it's early for you.

I'm a little punchy because I've been,

I did not sleep much last night and I've been up for like four hours. So we're going to have a little fun with this.

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