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Thanks. Well, greetings once again, Doug, it is good to be with you. I am unfortunately not able to see you right now, but I'm hoping that you have maintained our tradition so far with a

it looks like we both got the same memo

Well I I decided to dump the kooji today just, I don't know, I just, I just sort of felt like it would, it would, it would, Rich is clapping in the other room, but I just thought it would make us more

on the same page, because I'm not sure we're on the same page on this particular topic,

and that's what you're discussing.

So, that's right.

That would be good.

So I caught a video of yours, one of the Ask Doug videos,

and it sort of brought up the issues that we've discussed in partial format in a previous debate anyways.

Yeah. And you are asked a question about Tolkien and Chesterton and your

your immediate response to the question that you were asked,

because you're asked, were they Christians?

And your response was,

if they weren't, then I'm in deep trouble.

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