that we had to open it back up.

Not everybody, but a lot of them.

Why not?

So I'll kick it off before we go to the open forum.

Today's topics are Islam, Roman Catholicism, papacy, Protestantism, atheism, agnosticism, Hebrew roots, Unitarianism, Aryanism, Evangelicalism, Calvinism.

On and on, on, on, on.

All the usuals. Why not?

And I was reminded of the contrast between the Latin Roman Catholic approach to what sanctity is and what holiness is

and what the idea is in the Orthodox tradition.

And now one of the key indicators that we often overlook

in contrasting these two groups,

looking for which one is the true church,

pertains to the pathway to being made like God or being made right or whatever.

It's not accidental that when we have this schism,

we begin to see very bizarre manifestations in the West as to what it means to become righteous and how to be

made right with God. We see, for example, according to the Cambridge Companion, the

rise of the medieval mystical orders like Francis of Assisi, who sees in a vision a supposed

crucified angel, a seraphim.

Born into a noble family, he became a beggar after seeing a vision, excuse me, two years

before his death towards end of his life he saw a vision

of an angel

a six-wing

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