Rolling the Dice with Russia, and a Conversation with Pam Grier
The New Yorker Radio Hour
WNYC Studios and The New Yorker
4.2 • 6.2K Ratings
🗓️ 21 February 2020
⏱️ 26 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker. |
| 0:10.2 | Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. If you do a quick recap of the international news this past month, it might give you a panic attack. |
| 0:20.0 | There's the ongoing crisis of the coronavirus, missile strikes in the |
| 0:24.0 | Middle East, all kinds of headlines, and if they cause you anxiety, and they probably should, |
| 0:30.1 | think for a minute about the people who have to respond to all these developments in real time, |
| 0:35.2 | hour by hour. The complexity of world events can't be modeled by an algorithm, |
| 0:40.3 | at least not yet, so diplomats, policy analysts, and senior military officials sometimes turn |
| 0:46.3 | to very unusual tools to develop strategies. They play games. In 2018, Simon Parkin, who writes about gaming for the New Yorker, |
| 0:56.1 | traveled to the Defense Academy of the United Kingdom to see one of those games firsthand. |
| 1:01.9 | There's a story from the Second World War that you probably haven't heard before. |
| 1:06.4 | It's about U-Boats. |
| 1:07.9 | They were the Nazi submarine fleet, and they were causing a great deal of trouble for the British. |
| 1:12.6 | This is not addressed up propaganda story. |
| 1:15.0 | It's telling you that this U-boat, one of the wolves that hunting packs in the Atlantic, is as dangerous to your home as a thousand-pound bomb from the air. |
| 1:23.9 | The Germans were using the U-boats to sink convoys of supplies en route to England and an alarming rate, sometimes hundreds each month. |
| 1:32.6 | Winston Churchill came to believe that the outcome of the entire war rested on dealing with the U-boats. |
| 1:38.9 | So he called up a retired naval captain named Gilbert Roberts. |
| 1:42.8 | Roberts was a tactician and outside of the box thinker, |
| 1:46.8 | and at a secret naval base in Liverpool, he came up with an unusual plan to help the Navy sink |
| 1:52.4 | those U-boats. |
| 1:55.4 | Battleship! Battle ship! He designed a game. |
| 2:00.1 | It's loaded with action and suspense. |
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