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Oh God, What Now?

Rogue Nation: Britain scuttles its credibility

Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2020

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

As Johnson scrapes his Oven-Ready Deal into the bin, we ask why would any other country ever trust Britain’s word ever again? We explore the new Internal Market Bill’s staggering contempt for international law. And the authors of Left Out: The Inside Story of Labour Under Corbyn – Gabriel Pogrund and Patrick Maguire – join us to explain what really went on during Jeremy’s Wild Years. “The government is a 24-hour rolling embarrassment and I’m not sure what’s supposed to be distracting from what.” – Dorian Lynskey “You have to wonder why the UK has chosen this hill to die on. Does it want No Deal not just to be thinkable or possible, but inevitable?” – Ros Taylor “The Brexit tribe is fraying round the edges and Cummings is looking for something for them to rally around.” – Alex Andreou “By the end the Labour Party was at war with itself, and everyone was desperate to say why nothing was their fault.” – Gabriel Pogrund Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Ros Taylor and Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer: Jacob Archbold. Audio production by Alex Rees. Remainiacs is a Podmasters production. Get your free download of our theme tune ‘Demon Is A Monster’ by Cornershop. Our new companion podcast THE BUNKER is now DAILY too. Get it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Acast and more platforms every day. Oh and RSS too. Remainiacs isn’t going away just because Brexit is happening. We’ll be here throughout to keep the pro-European movement informed, entertained and fired up. Get every new episode a whole day early when you back us on the Patreon crowdfunding platform. You’ll also get our monthly Ask Remainiacs special episode plus smart merchandise, an exclusive weekly column by our panel, and discounts on #RemainiacsLive tickets too. #OwnTheRemoan remainiacs.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Romania, so one crisis is never enough.

0:10.9

I'm Dorian Lidsky, and joining me in a very specific and limited way are two of our regulars.

0:16.7

Ros Taylor is editor at the LSE's COVID-19 blog Ros Hello.

0:21.5

Hello.

0:22.5

COVID-19 case has been rising by 2000 a day this week.

0:26.0

Now the government has outlawed social gatherings of more than six people.

0:30.4

So you can hang out with six office colleagues or eat in prep presumably alongside six people,

0:36.8

but not six friends.

0:38.8

Is this message to mix to get the public on side at this stage?

0:44.1

Yeah, it's going to mean a completely new redefinition of a work related meeting, isn't it?

0:50.0

It's going to get very creative there.

0:52.4

But this is a surprise me a little bit because what surprised me most was that there was no distinction between indoors and outdoors.

0:58.8

And we know that COVID-19 spreads much, much more readily indoors.

1:02.8

And yet the guidance is the same.

1:05.2

It's a maximum of six people, whether you're in someone's garden, in someone's house, in a park.

1:11.3

So that has a virtue of simplicity.

1:14.1

But what's clear here is that the government is prioritising the economy.

1:18.8

desperately doesn't want to close down things like pubs and restaurants and of course schools.

1:24.0

So that seems they seem to have gone for some publicity, but it will make some people understandably very unhappy

1:29.4

because we'll see if you've got three kids for example,

1:33.8

you legally won't be able to meet up with grandparents any longer again.

1:37.2

So that will be unpopular.

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