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We have with us today, Fisher Derdarian.

He is the founder and executive director of the Roger Scruton Legacy Foundation,

and he's with us today to discuss precisely the legacy of that thinker and the work of the foundation.

Roger Scruton, who has published a few pieces in First Things

about, I guess, five, four or five years ago with us. We were, of course, honored to have him

in the magazine. Welcome, Fisher. Well, thank you, Mark. It's a pleasure to join you on the First

Things podcast. Tell us just, in practical terms, what does the foundation do?

Yeah, well, first I have to say, you know, it's all the more a pleasure to join first things as I was an intern there, which you'll remember, Mark.

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