I'm Alan Alder, and this is clear and vivid conversations about connecting and communicating.

I've forgotten about that one. That is so right. If you play Louis Armstrong, if you play West End Blues or anything great,

it's all great about Louis Armstrong. At the beginning of the day, at the end of the day, I defy you to be

unhappy. He is so good. Nobody's ever played the trumpet better. And there's something about

what he puts into the trumpet, the joy along with the pain.

There's never been a musician like him.

So I say, start the day and end the day with Louis Armstrong.

That's my old friend Roger Rosenblatt.

And this is one time when calling someone an old friend is literally true. That tip about

cheering yourself up by listening to Louis Armstrong is just one from his essay called

Tips for Being Happily 85 Years Old Like Me, which was published last year in the New York Times.

We chatted then about a new book he had in the works called More Rules for Aging,

making the most of your ridiculous, wondrous life.

The book comes out next week, June 9th.

So now is a good time to dip back into a fun preview of Roger's sometimes counterintuitive

advice for aging well.

Roger, I loved a piece you did for the New York Times called 10 tips for being happily 85

years old like me. Did you get a lot of responses from that? A remarkable amount. I was told by the

times that it had 1.1 million readers and was counting. Wow. There's a lot of us old people out there.

This is a follow-up on the first book you wrote about getting older, which is called Rules for Aging.

How did you decide to do another book about aging? After you actually got older, had you learned

something new? Yeah, I learned I'd like to make more money on the second book because the first

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