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The Gist

Roger Ailes Created This Mess

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2017

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Thursday morning, Roger Ailes died. The Fox News impresario changed the conversation in America and created a base of support for the current pPresident, Donald Trump.  Isaac Chotiner has reported extensively on Fox News for Slate. His new interview podcast is called I Have to Ask. Plus, Mike hits the bar with Peter Fornatale to drink discuss the crown jewel of cocktails. Fornatale is author of Brooklyn Spirits and host of the DRF Players' Podcast. In the Spiel, Mike reflects on how to win listeners and influence presidents.  Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at slate.com/gistplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:08.2

Thursday, May 18, 2017 from Slated's Digestime, Mike Pasca,

0:12.8

Roger L's skillfully exploited a market opportunity

0:16.8

and unskilledfully exploited women.

0:19.1

He was a fighter for his causes and a propagandist.

0:21.9

He was a success and a horror.

0:24.2

He was quintessentially American.

0:26.1

Which we should all do well to remember.

0:28.6

On the show today, I will interview Isaac Chotner,

0:31.7

who's a sharp observer of all things, Al's,

0:35.9

and almost all Al's was awful.

0:39.1

Now, Isaac doesn't mince words nor should he.

0:42.0

But I do think a lot of the commentary

0:43.9

about Al's passing misses the point.

0:46.8

Matt Taibi in Rolling Stone had an article

0:49.5

headline, Roger L's was one of the worst Americans ever.

0:53.3

Really, more than everyone owns slaves,

0:55.5

which is to say most of the people on the money,

0:57.6

or like murderers, might that count as evil?

1:02.2

See, and I do pursue this with Isaac.

1:04.8

I think every bad thing that Al's was

1:08.9

is because Americans allowed him to be bad,

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