Yesterday, the Supreme Court of the United States released their ruling on the case

Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, effectively overturning Roe v. W. W.

Roe v. Wade.

This decision is widely viewed as an unprecedented legal victory for the pro-life movement,

and one that will have major legal, political, and personal

consequences for Americans for years to come.

In our interview today, I'm talking with Scott Klusendorf about what this decision means

for the pro-life cause and how it should impact how we, as Christians, seek to advocate

for the lives of the unborn in our communities.

Scott is the president of Life Training Institute, where he trains pro-life advocates to persuasively

defend their views. He's also the author of The Case for Life, equipping Christians to engage

the culture, which Crossway is pleased to re-release in a second edition in early

2023. Let's get started. Well Scott, thank you so much for joining me again on the

Crossway podcast. Good to be with you, Matt. So the Dobbs decision is this huge

landmark case that has just been decided, and it obviously

marks a major legal victory for the pro-life movement.

And I want to get into how we as Christians should engage with our pro-choice friends and

neighbors and family in light of that.

But before we do that, I wonder if you could just share a little bit about how you're

feeling today. Well, it's a tremendous victory. Anybody who tells you it's not is unaware of the

history, unaware of the cultural settings we are in right now. This is a remarkable moment. Now,

it's true that it's not a sufficient victory, but it's a very necessary

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