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Welcome to the Advisory Opinions Podcast. I'm David French with Sarah Isger and with a special guest.

We were talking last week with all of the special counsel news. Could we, is there a guest?

We could, we could find who would have some, some knowledge, some brief fleeting experience

with special counsels to share with, to share with the, our listeners.

And Sarah had an idea. So Sarah, do you want to introduce our guest?

Well, you know, there are too many people who have actually had special counsel experience

in that sort of post independent council world.

And, and so we, we really just were racking our brains, David, to see if we could come up with anyone.

But I found someone, thankfully he went to Harvard Law School, clerked on the DC circuit for judge Doug Ginsburg.

Has been in the Department of Justice forever. I don't think there was a time when he didn't work at DOJ.

He then became the United States Attorney for Maryland.

He's a starting sound familiar to anyone. Then he stayed on as he was attorney.

He was appointed by President Bush.

He stayed on during President Obama's time. And drum roll, he became deputy attorney general

in the Trump administration. And after a little bit of a recusal, la, la, la, la,

he became acting attorney general over certain matters that were being investigated by the Department of Justice.

And during his time, he actually appointed a special counsel named Robert Mueller.

Rod, thanks for being on the show.

Well, thank you, sir. David, I enjoy listening to your podcast. I'm glad to be on it.

And you're a regular. You've left the department. You're a lawyer lawyer now.

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