And I'm going to put my blood and my bones into the soils of Bulgaria.

And you guys can do the same or you can be buried underneath mine.

And everybody was in.

Welcome to The Well, I'm Anson Mount.

If you're a regular listener to this show, you know that this is a podcast maintained by two rather busy men.

And because of this, we kind of publish episodes when we can, however we can.

And so there are some interviews that we've had sitting around for a while.

In one of those interviews, it popped into my head this morning when I woke up and realized it was Father's Day,

2004. Happy Father's Day to all the dads. I am now proudly, one of you, which is one of the

primary reasons I have become so busy. But the conversation I found myself thinking back to was with my good friend Rod Lurie.

Rod gave me one of my first big jobs in television.

It was a short-lived series called Line of Fire on ABC, and we're both still very proud of that.

He also directed me in his film Straw Dogs and later directed several episodes of Hell on Wheels.

Part of getting to know Rod outside of work was getting to know his kids, Hunter, and Page.

They were probably nine and seven respectively when I first met them, and I actually watched them grow up.

So, and this was a few years ago, it was a terrible shock when I heard that Hunter had died

unexpectedly. The conversation you're about to hear is the first time Rod and I were able to sit down

together since it happened. He had just wrapped up post-production on his film The Outpost, which he'd been

preparing to shoot when it all went down. Anyway, this led us into a larger conversation about creativity,

about how the reasons you set out to do something can change over time or quite suddenly.

And that's okay.

The important thing is that you continue.

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