ROD DREHER | Live Not by Lies (Ep. 786)

Undaunted.Life: A Man's Podcast by Kyle Thompson

Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 15 July 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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In this episode, we welcome Rod Dreher to the show. He is a conservative writer, editor, producer, and documentarian. He has a new book and an Angel Studios documentary series called “Live Not by Lies”. In this interview, we discuss why totalitarianism is on the rise, what we can learn from the totalitarian regimes of the 20th century, the difference between soft totalitarianism and hard totalitarianism, how abortion and the trans issue are related to attacks on truth, how Christians have to accept persecution and marginalization without fighting back in order for totalitarianism to work, how churches in America are doing a poor job of preparing Christians for the fight, why he lives in Hungary, how the mass migration of Islamists into European countries could spell the death of Europe, and much more. Let’s get into it… Episode notes and links HERE. Donate to support our mission of equipping men to push back darkness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is undaunted Life a Man's podcast.
0:24.4	I'm your host Kyle Thompson.
0:26.1	Let's get into it.
0:27.1	All right, guys, we've got a special guest on the podcast today.
0:29.0	His name is Rod Dreyer.
0:30.7	He is a conservative writer, editor, producer, and documentarian.
0:34.9	And he's a guy I've been wanting to get on the show for a long time.
0:37.0	I was going back through my emails. And I think I first reached out to him in like 2022 or 2023. Just so glad we can get this done. But he has a new book and an Angel Studios documentary series out called Live Not By Lies. And so the interesting thing about this guy is he's done so much work, so much writing in the conservative space. But it's almost
0:54.5	like Live Not By Lies is a bit of his magnum opus, because this is where he talks about totalitarianism
0:59.8	and specifically how Christians can respond to the predations of totalitarianism. And that's essentially
1:05.4	what the last half of the podcast is. But in the first half of the podcast, we were just talking,
1:09.1	I'm just kind of looking at my notes here.
1:15.4	You know, he lives in Hungary. Why does he live in Hungary as an American and what people say about Victor Orban in Hungary in some of the Eastern Bloc countries versus what people are actually
1:19.8	experiencing that are living there? And really just the mass immigration, a mass migration of
1:25.2	Muslims into European countries, how Europe in a way has been lost.
1:29.7	Europe has fallen. They have not required assimilation for the people that are migrating into their
1:34.4	countries. They're allowing Islamist ideologies to basically get deep roots in some of their areas,
1:41.8	and they're doing so in a very, very naive way. And so we
1:45.2	weaved in and out of a lot of subject matters there. And I mean, when you talk about stuff like
1:48.9	that, guys, it can get kind of prickly. And he and I, we disagree on most of this stuff. But again,
1:53.9	these are very, very important topics that you're not really going to hear most pastors talk about
1:57.6	on Sunday morning from the pulpit. So you're going to get it from podcasters like me and authors like Rod because that's essentially the world that we have to
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