Rocky IV- Episode #866
Zen Pop
Todd and Cathy Adams
4.9 • 637 Ratings
🗓️ 28 April 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Cathy and Todd discuss Rocky IV, the 1985 film that Sylvester Stallone wrote, directed, and starred in, grossing $300 million on a $31 million budget and spending six weeks at number one over Christmas. They break down Apollo Creed’s shocking death at the hands of Ivan Drago and the real story of Brigitte Nielsen sliding a photo under Stallone’s hotel room door and landing a role he wrote specifically for her. They dig into what the film is really about, whether Drago is a villain or the Soviet state’s most tragic victim, how every great sports movie is secretly about an individual fighting an institution that doesn’t want them to win, and why a film that won five Razzie Awards is still so beloved to this day. This is our last entry for Rocky month!
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| 0:00.0 | How does it feel to spar with the great former champion? |
| 0:08.4 | The man's tongue didn't come through customers. |
| 0:11.0 | All right, what's happening out there? |
| 0:12.8 | He's winning. |
| 0:15.4 | I see three of them out there. |
| 0:17.8 | Get the one in the middle. |
| 0:18.9 | Right. |
| 0:19.7 | Hit the one in the middle. |
| 0:20.8 | You will lose. |
| 0:21.6 | Nago averages 1,850 pounds. |
| 0:24.6 | But that thing is... |
| 0:25.6 | So the results quite obvious. |
| 0:27.6 | And what results are those? |
| 0:29.6 | Whatever he hits, he destroys. |
| 0:32.6 | If he dies, he dies. |
| 0:34.6 | I must have break you. |
| 0:36.6 | If I can change. |
| 0:39.6 | I think that every also has changed. |
| 0:41.6 | And you can change. |
| 0:43.1 | You can change. |
| 0:46.0 | Everybody can change. |
| 0:48.2 | Cajdy, can change. |
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