I'm Lisa Yuso, a digital producer at Ideas, the podcast that likes to feed your curiosity.

I ask my colleagues why they think you should listen.

Ideas can make you the smartest, most interesting guest at your next dinner party in less than 60 minutes.

It's got the best of a storytelling podcast

with the best of a great lecture.

You can pretty much never predict

where an episode will take you,

but you can count on every episode

to shift your perspective,

even just a little.

Find and follow ideas

wherever you get your podcasts.

This is a CBC podcast.

Welcome to Sick Boy, a podcast where we talk about what it's like to be sick.

This week's guest is Mari.

They have Spina Bifida.

Let's talk about it.

We are here and we're here with our new friend Mari.

And I say this, I say this all the time. I'm really excited to get into the conversation.

But I, again, I mean it every single time. And I'm excited. This time I mean it.

This time I'm for real.

But I am excited to talk to you, Mari, because I, you know, so we've been doing this

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