Welcome to the mortification of Spin.

I'm your host, Carl Truman, professor at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia,

pastor of Cornerstone OPC Church in Ambler, and angry opponent of creative arts pastors everywhere.

And I'm Todd Pruitt. I'm the teaching pastor at Church of the Savior, which is in Wayne, Pennsylvania.

And there are plenty of things I'm angry about as well. But Carl, why don't you kick us off by a

rather interesting thing you found recently by just noticing what Christians

tend to shop for these days and how you can help maybe some of our listeners get plugged

into the mainstream of the evangelical subculture.

Well, it's pretty amazing 12 months in many ways.

We had Ed Young's Pasta Fashion website.

We've seen the resurgence of skinny jeans and heavy-rimmed glasses among the young hipsters.

And then recently, I noticed that there's now a Christian fashion show,

a way you can quote, model for Jesus being put on in Florida. It seems to me that so often

Christian interaction with culture simply involves a Christian reproduction of the world's culture,

but in a somewhat inferior and more tacky form.

I would use the analogy of the Eiffel Tower in Las Vegas and the Eiffel Tower in Paris. The former

looks like the real thing, but it's obviously of inferior quality, and given the choice,

you want to be in Paris, not Las Vegas. What do you think, Todd? Well, I would agree. And of course,

Las Vegas, though, gives us lots of parallels. You've got the pyramid at the Luxor Casino. Now,

I haven't been to Las Vegas, Carl. I'm sure you have. I have actually. Oh, well, stayed in the

Flamingo. That was my suspicion. Isn't that, isn't that the one that Bugsie Siegel started it all off with? It is the one that Bugsie Siegel founded.

I was actually speaking to a Korean seminary about Martin Luther, so I didn't get much of the...

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