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Pop Pantheon

ROBYN (with The New Yorker's Jia Tolentino)

Pop Pantheon

DJ Louie XIV

Music Commentary, Music, Pop Culture, Pop, Pop Music

4.7630 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2021

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

DJ Louie is joined by The New Yorker's Jia Tolentino to talk Niche Pop Icon, Robyn. Louie and Jia explore Robyn's early breakthrough during the teen pop boom of the late '90s with her Max Martin-produced hit, "Show Me Love", before going deep on her re-emergence nearly a decade later as pop's most beloved iconoclast. They break down the contours of her reinvention on her self-titled album in 2005, dig into tracks like "Be Mine!" and "With Every Heartbeat' to pinpoint what exactly constitutes a Robyn song, the crowning achievement of 2010's venerated Body Talk series, the ways "Dancing on my Own" and "Call Your Girlfriend" both define and subvert pop in its' purest form, and how Robyn has reimagined embodying sexuality as a female pop star. Finally, Louie and Jia assess what tier Robyn belongs in in the Pop Pantheon and explore the notion of creating a new tier for artists like her, whose success and influence is somehow greater than traditional pop metrics can measure. 

Read Jia's piece on Robyn and "Honey" in the New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/honey-reviewed-robyn-has-returned-and-she-has-what-you-want

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pop Pantheon, the podcast where we completely overanalyze the music, legacy, and cultural impact of all your favorite pop stars.

0:19.3

I'm your host, DJ Louis X. Louisth, and I'm a DJ, writer,

0:23.1

and all-around pop music fanatic. I've spent my entire life and career thinking about,

0:27.8

dissecting, and being obsessed with pop stars. Their music, their legacies, how they relate to one

0:33.1

another, to the larger pop musical landscape, and to culture more broadly. What separates an icon from a mere superstar?

0:39.8

Why does some careers become the soundtrack to our lives, and why do others flop?

0:44.8

Whose work in legacy transcends time and whose feel stuck in it?

0:48.4

Every episode of Pop Pantheon, we'll devote an entire episode to a pop icon,

0:53.0

from Titans of the Genre like Beyonce and all the

0:55.3

way down to lesser Titans, like Nicole Scherzinger. Each episode, you'll hear a little breakdown from

1:02.5

me, and then some distinguished guests and I will chop it up about their careers, discographies,

1:07.5

public personas, live performances, music videos, feuds, tweets, you name it.

1:12.6

And at the end, we'll turn pop into fantasy football, make our final judgment, and place them

1:17.7

in the official pop pantheon.

1:19.8

Hey yo, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Pop Pantheon.

1:24.3

I have missed you all dearly over the last couple of weeks. And I always want to thank

1:30.9

everybody for coming back and listening again. I have continued to be so floored and touched

1:35.4

by the responses podcast has gotten and all of your enthusiasm and passion for what we're

1:41.8

talking about and for pop and the tribe we're creating here.

1:45.7

And I'm so grateful that you're back once again with me for a new episode.

1:50.3

I am going to keep my remarks here at the top very brief, except to say, if you haven't yet,

1:56.3

go follow us on Pop Panther on Pod on Instagram because there's community building stuff I want to do over

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